Something Jude/Pa himself made using an eldritch-y guidebook.
Something that's been in Joey and Jude's manor for generations and no one knows what it does or even its existence for a long time.
Something that was in Joey and Jude's manor before they even moved there.
Something that Joey and Jude's family stole from the same place the green monsters are from or have been residing or searching to obtain.
Something that Joey and Jude's family created from scratch.
Something that came from a frog temple.
Or a device like that that Joey and Jude's family edited to transfer across universe.
A device similar to the pads within the frog temples that allowed people from Earth to enter prospit or derse, that was there since the beginning of time.
We have not found the source of the monsters' whereabouts since Act 1.
Anything directly involving the Condesce.
Something that won't be properly explained, with only vague hints that lead to mass speculation.
Some reason that makes no sense at all.
They could have been harassing the family to get it back, or atleast were in the search of obtaining it.
A similar planet-swapping device that Joey and Dammek used.
The fact that they are a primitive, virus-like race that seeks to eat everything in sight, including planets.
Them going back in time to a parallel universe where the past is the future, then sending themselves to the future in the past universe from the first universe's alternate timeline universe 20 minutes before the other parallel alternate universe imploded.
The fact that they are a mutative, corrupting force that seeks to plague the planet.
Their intensive search for the Cherub switch Joey used.
Anything involving Alternia's green moon in general.
Doc Scratch sending them, or a different nefarious Chessmaster.
Ancient ruins beneath the Earth that were uncovered, possibly by Joey and Jude's relatives.
The monsters are an alien race that invaded Earth.
The fact that the Noble circle of Horrorterrors doesn't want Joey or Jude going through the portal, because they're preventing Universe C from being created, and they oppose Doc Scratch.
Someone summoning mini versions of the Horrorterrors.
A DNA/paradoxical/ectobiological experiment gone wrong, which was how they got created.
They time-traveled to that date to harass Joey and possibly the rest of Earth's population.
A meteorite that came from a SBURB session that the aliens played, but the meteor got sent to the wrong planet.
A meteorite that fell to the Earth, just like in Attack the Block.
The green-mouthed monsters are there because of. And returning to the earlier point about Post-Scratch Earth having the same characters under circumstances, it's possible that different/similar instances of the Guardians, Kids and Trolls also exist in Hiveswap. In conclusion, Hiveswap isn't an AU or within the same continuity due to being an entirely different universe within its own, independent time stream that exists somewhere out in paradox space. Therefore, for Hiveswap to not be within the same continuity, it means that the events don't cross into the time bubbles of any of the established universes from Homestuck (B1, B2, A2 or A1). For example, from the perspectives of A2 Trolls, they had just created the B1 Kids' universe, but due to being in different time bubbles, the B1 universe has already progressed through billions of years. Each universe is encapsulated in a kind of time bubble time is more linear when one is inside this bubble (i.e. Secondly, it's been established that time starts acting really weird once you enter the void between universes. But Post-Scratch Earth isn't considered an AU, but it's own entity separate from Pre-Scratch Earth. Relatively speaking, Post-Scratch Earth is an AU version of Pre-Scratch Earth, in that it involves the same people, just in different circumstances. In theory, it makes more sense when you think of how space and time works within the story.Īn AU implies an alternate reality version of a preexisting universe. Word of God stated that Hiveswap isn't an AU or within the same continuity as Homestuck. Hiveswap is in its own universe separate from Homestuck.